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Post by radicalapologist on Nov 5, 2010 21:04:30 GMT -6
So. Right. There is something I've been seeing more and more lately around here..and really its making me so upset its making me NOT want to go to the fourth wall..which is something that i loved doing forever..i love talking to you guys and getting to know you..but there is that something I've been noticing. You guys have been antagonizing each other more and more..and not in the joking way like before...either its meme spamming which pisses off jade/jack/james...or posting things that just piss each other off greatly...or even just being overly hostile over small things that can be solved by a delete and a slap on the wrist.
i know i dont have much place to talk but i had a idea. this is NOT a thread about talking to others about why so one and so fourth pisses you off. but this is about WHAT pisses you off. so next time drama doesn't happen.
also. i would like to humbly request something. next time someone does something that makes you upset. PLEASE. PLEASE. PRETTY PLEASE. dont flip out of them. I know we have a few people that tend TO flip out..and thats ok i guess..but really..asking nicely to stop works so much better.
and for the other side of things. if you can tell you are annoying someone. please stop. pleeeease. if someone is outright telling you they are being annoyed by you. stop.
when you post the things you dislike. DO. NOT. make them pointed at any certain person. I love this site and i love you guys..but i seriously fear that if this keeps up..people will stop coming here..and i dont want that..=[
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Post by arseniccatnip on Nov 6, 2010 5:24:12 GMT -6
well im sorry because it will be obvious who im pointing this at, but like i said, i really do hate it when i am called a kid, a little child, etc, compared to all/most other stream members.
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Post by turntechGodhead(DS) on Nov 6, 2010 8:45:56 GMT -6
the STREAM has too many FEELINGS and PROBLEMS
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Post by hellajeef on Nov 7, 2010 13:14:53 GMT -6
It can be hard to interpret from text alone when someone is flipping out or not. A few days ago I asked some questions and protested something as calmly as I could come across as, and I got WORDS slammed down my throat. Hard.
So yeah, I agree, and that's about all........
But it's not as easy as it sounds
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Post by hellajeef on Nov 7, 2010 13:43:35 GMT -6
Okay jesus christ, I come in today to find everyone hating on some guy whom they find unfunny and calling him all manner of things for no other apparent reason. When I try to defend him everyone's all "JEFF YOU BE WHITE KNIGHTIN' SON YOU INSULTIN' BASTERT WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT"
I've never understood why people do this. If he annoys you, fine, don't talk about him, or be all like "yeah, that dude's IRRITATING man"
But don't call him a moron and a faggot and a waste of existence just because you don't like his manner of roleplay. This is roleplay we're talking about, JESUS
Also morons deserve your respect as much as anyone else but that's another can of worms entirely
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Post by arachnidsGrip on Nov 7, 2010 16:06:28 GMT -6
What?
Morons don't deserve respect. Are you making out the word "moron" to mean "mentally challenged?"
"Moron is a term once used in psychology to denote mild mental retardation. The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement. Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it was used more commonly as an insult than as a psychological term."
So no, it USED to mean that, now it just means somebody who is stupid, moronic, idiotic, etc.
A42 is immature and unfunny, AND a bother.
He's not role playing, he's just being obnoxious, and then thinks he is the king of funny.
We've also used the word "faggot" before plenty of times.
Also, only one person said you were white knighting, don't generalize.
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Post by radicalapologist on Nov 7, 2010 16:35:53 GMT -6
OK! this was not what i made this thread for at all but ill roll with it.
jeff.
A42 IS a pretty annoying person and he isnt around us. he is on the MSPA forums. i'm sure you've seen him.
as for neo.
the use of faggot and the like do get used from time to time but i dont really like it being used =\ someone might get seriously offended...and thats what im trying to not let happen thanks to this thread.
on another thing. i wouldnt really want to allow people just..throwing insults out everywhere. i do it kiddingly. i kinda make it a point to do it kiddingly. like with blue CA, who mildly annoys me at times, i'm still cool with him, but i tell him to shut up to the point it cant be taken as anything BUT kidding.
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Post by hellajeef on Nov 7, 2010 18:37:44 GMT -6
What?
Morons don't deserve respect. Are you making out the word "moron" to mean "mentally challenged?"
"Moron is a term once used in psychology to denote mild mental retardation. The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement. Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it was used more commonly as an insult than as a psychological term."
So no, it USED to mean that, now it just means somebody who is stupid, moronic, idiotic, etc. Right, but why does something have to be a disorder for you not to hate them for it? Stupid moronic idiots are people of lesser intelligence, and using that as a basis for negative discrimination, like using any disability, is bad. It's become so ingrained into society that I've taken the throwing of these insults around for granted, but whenever I hear someone say something along the lines of "I hate idiots" I wince. A42 is immature and unfunny, AND a bother.
He's not role playing, he's just being obnoxious, and then thinks he is the king of funny.
None of the stuff we are doing is very mature! I don't know what you can expect when you're roleplaying as already conceived characters. If you find him irritating, that's one thing. But there were some OUTRAGEOUS insults circulating in there We've also used the word "faggot" before plenty of times. I dunno........it's one thing if the homosexuals involved don't find it offensive, but I always thought of it on the same level as people calling each other "cunt" or "nigger"--they may not mind, but it still seems fucky. Also, only one person said you were white knighting, don't generalize. I'll give you that one, and apologize. jeff. A42 IS a pretty annoying person and he isnt around us. he is on the MSPA forums. i'm sure you've seen him. I dunno, I find him hilarious, but that's a matter of opinion. The animosity is really what I'm addressing here. Unless you mean you/they hate him because he's from the MSPA fora? That's where I'm from. I mean, if it weren't for that place, Pesterchum wouldn't exist, or at least we likely wouldn't know about it, so we certainly owe something to it. I don't understand why you would hate someone just for frequenting.
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Post by golgothasTerror on Nov 7, 2010 19:01:57 GMT -6
Jeff, he uses the canons on pesterchum as nothing more than something to use his jokes on.
Also, seriously, morons and idiots are not people of lesser intelligence automatically. There can be people who are not intelligent and not act idiotic; I am not going to state any names so I don't offend anyone but the people we are referring to could be incredibly intelligent but they are still acting stupid regardless. It's less a deal of intelligence and more how it's used.
And as for the word faggot...You may or may not like it, but this is not your site. It's also not mine. In all honesty it's more Neo's than anyone elses, as he paid for a good amount of it. You can contribute your opinions, but if no one changes their mind that is not automatically some social injustice. People don't always conform to other beliefs.
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Post by hellajeef on Nov 7, 2010 19:12:13 GMT -6
Jeff, he uses the canons on pesterchum as nothing more than something to use his jokes on. ........I don't get it. What else is he supposed to do? Also, seriously, morons and idiots are not people of lesser intelligence automatically. There can be people who are not intelligent and not act idiotic; I am not going to state any names so I don't offend anyone but the people we are referring to could be incredibly intelligent but they are still acting stupid regardless. It's less a deal of intelligence and more how it's used. This is hard to say. If you're acting honestly stupid, then you are stupid in that area. It's all grey, yes. I........I dunno. Someone acting stupid still seems like a terrible barometer to me. And as for the word faggot...You may or may not like it, but this is not your site. It's also not mine. In all honesty it's more Neo's than anyone elses, as he paid for a good amount of it. You can contribute your opinions, but if no one changes their mind that is not automatically some social injustice. People don't always conform to other beliefs. This is, of course, true. But the word is largely held as something very offensive, and if a single person is offended by its use, it's a sign of bad But yeah, whatever, I can't stop you. 'Slong as it's not causing any larger problems, I suppose.
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Post by arachnidsGrip on Nov 7, 2010 19:50:25 GMT -6
OK! this was not what i made this thread for at all but ill roll with it. jeff. A42 IS a pretty annoying person and he isnt around us. he is on the MSPA forums. i'm sure you've seen him. as for neo. the use of faggot and the like do get used from time to time but i dont really like it being used =\ someone might get seriously offended...and thats what im trying to not let happen thanks to this thread. on another thing. i wouldnt really want to allow people just..throwing insults out everywhere. i do it kiddingly. i kinda make it a point to do it kiddingly. like with blue CA, who mildly annoys me at times, i'm still cool with him, but i tell him to shut up to the point it cant be taken as anything BUT kidding. There are a number of people here who can take the word "faggot" offensively.
Perhaps most notably me!
Trouble here is we all know not to take offense from it! As long as it's not pointed at us and meant in that way.
Insulting eachother? Absolutely not, we're all friends. Insulting people we don't know? Fuckin' go for it.
"Stupid moronic idiots are people of lesser intelligence, and using that as a basis for negative discrimination, like using any disability, is bad."
No, no, stupid moronic idiots are people who choose to be of lesser intelligence.
"None of the stuff we are doing is very mature!"
I beg to differ. Saying role playing is immature in and of itself is like saying playing video games is immature, when it certainly is not. It all depends on HOW you do it, not WHAT you do.
"It's also not mine. In all honesty it's more Neo's than anyone elses, as he paid for a good amount of it."
I would just like to say that this is not MY site. It is all of ours.
There are a select few of us with more "power" but that's just to solve some problems we may have from time to time, so we can make decisions more quickly and more easily.
"........I don't get it. What else is he supposed to do?"
Jokes are fine.
Spouting memes and thinking you're hilarious while bothering us is not. It's not like we're doing anything to him, we were all just talking about how we hate him and how annoying he is, while insulting him. Venting, really, and it's not like we were saying anything to him so what he doesn't know won't hurt him. [/color]
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Post by radicalapologist on Nov 7, 2010 19:57:24 GMT -6
jeff look at it this way. what if..someone...was being the MOST annoying person to you EVER...you see it as funny but the person it is happening to REALLY doesnt.
most people talk to these guys..to..well...be friends..or just small talk..or something with them...its a pretty small number of people that really set out to mess with them.
and the fact that he was using memes from YEARS as if they were fresh and new..when..they werent funny to begin with before. and it ISNT that he is from the forums..im pretty sure none of us have anything against the forums..maybe a few threads we dont like but not the whole thing.
the problem is, an annoying person is..annoying..and..you saw what happened after he posted that "holloween prank" or whatever on tam? like...3 people laughed..and almost everyone else went blank faced and told him to but it out. =\ he isnt well taken from time to time...
aaand..i donno..i think the guys were just venting..he had been bugging them im sure so..yeah...group vents are good i guess...you just came in at a bad time...
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Post by radicalapologist on Nov 7, 2010 20:01:44 GMT -6
OH HEY LOOK! neo ninja'd the shit out of me in every way possible cuz i was waaay to slow.
how do you even have the gumption to do that man
motherfuckin miracles.
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Post by arseniccatnip on Nov 8, 2010 4:54:21 GMT -6
...i dont know how to do quotes...
"I dunno........it's one thing if the homosexuals involved don't find it offensive, but I always thought of it on the same level as people calling each other "cunt" or "nigger"--they may not mind, but it still seems fucky."
You're overdoing this. At this point I could tell you I'm offended you used the word Oh my God, Jesus Christ, all the time. Because I and others on the Stream are not Christian. See? It's just not right taking it that far. I believe we shouldn't mock one because of how funny or not funny he is but if they want to shut up about it Jeff! There is nothing you can do to change their minds.
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Post by radicalapologist on Nov 8, 2010 9:24:07 GMT -6
he isnt taking it too far. its an actual offensive word like i said before.
but like neo pointed out..it isnt being used as a insult..more as a...uh...i dont even know really. just being tagged on from time to time. i donno im still tired from waking up
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